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Late getting them in, but hopefully will still see some action.  Bought a new tiller from rural king and took them a month to get it in, set me back a bit.  Had I known I would have taken so long I would have just got the old disc out and used it.  I had considered using the beans and glyphosate ahead of a fall planting of a clover mix, we'll see.

Anyway this is rural king roundup resistant soybean seed from hoosier pride seeds.  Kind of an odd u type shaped plot.

Can see the stand if you look close to the left of the pear trees.  

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Out in front of the stand from ground level.

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Looking back at the other corner, mineral site in that corner that has been there for about 15 years.  Woods behind the treeline were timbered out last year. Looks a LOT different.  5952dacb1abdf_2017soybeanplot1pic4.jpg.8fd548199d9877977e7416b512474bc0.jpg

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Little kill plot, used to always plant this in the 4 h plot mix with Christina.   Usually get pretty good scrape activity on those edges, need to get a camera back there soon.  

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Have another bean plot in the bottom I will try to get some pics of.  Will post some progress pics in a couple weeks.  

 

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Looks good man. The deer are probably thinking: "great food but a dangerous place to eat" :)  I haven't started mine yet. As I posted earlier this spring, I'm doing it differently this year. I did plow and disc the end of May but didn't plant anything then. I bought a 25 gal sprayer and a jug of glyphosphate and will kill off everything in August then plant winter rye.                  Am hoping this will kill off the weeds and let me put in a regular plot mix next year.

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Thanks Jerry.  Yeah, the missing woods sure does not help the deer feel secure on that side, saw a huge drop in activity from where those woods used to be last fall and our mineral site camera has had very poor activity there.  Would check into rye grain rather than a rye grass if you can find any.  

My last 2 deer I have mounted were killed in that little plot, was in clover for both of them.  Does bedded just off the plot in both cases.  

Considering using a liquid triple 10 fertilizer on the beans, but never used a liquid fertilizer before.  Beans were planted about 2 weeks ago. So looks like we got pretty good germination.

 

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Don't have a planter, used a tow behind broadcast spreader behind the 4 wheeler.  Came back with a drag and then used my small kubota with turf wheels to firm up the ground.

Would sure like to have a planter, been looking.

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Plots look good William. Soybeans should still do fine. They were no tilling soybeans across from my place just last week. I have broadcast beans in the past in a similar fashion with decent results.

My father in law picked up a PTO tiller from Rural King a few years ago. It's been a good piece of equipment. He got a 5', and it's a little too big for his tractor, but does the job. I think our store usually has at least one or two in stock.

This is the first time in years I am not doing any food plots....just don't have the time to get them done right.

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47 minutes ago, MUDRUNNER said:

Plots look good William. Soybeans should still do fine. They were no tilling soybeans across from my place just last week. I have broadcast beans in the past in a similar fashion with decent results.

My father in law picked up a PTO tiller from Rural King a few years ago. It's been a good piece of equipment. He got a 5', and it's a little too big for his tractor, but does the job. I think our store usually has at least one or two in stock.

This is the first time in years I am not doing any food plots....just don't have the time to get them done right.

Thanks Tim.  Yeah, they had a few tillers on the lot, they had the standard duty 6 footers and they looked like they had been sitting for a long time(faded paint and rust).  I ordered the heavier "professional" grade 6 foot king kutter.  It was only $30 more than the standard tillers.  For my 20 year old 47 horse tractor the 6 footer is as much as I would want to run, even though the tractor is rated for a 7 footer.  When tilling new hard soil it has stalled the tractor, seems to be a real fine line on the tiller clutch adjustment. 

I have broadcast planted beans in the past, but those were always "forage" type beans.  I have seen eaten leaves on some of the plants so i know the deer know these beans are food.  Think I had planted eagle beans as late as July and still had them do well.  I will get some more pics soon, last time I was back there they had shot up quite a bit. There is a lot of corn in around us this year, seeing a few fields with beans.  

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He's just got an old 25 HP Bison. Wish he would have gotten the 4'er instead of the 5. I have to just do about 2- 3" at a time in the lowest gear possible, so it is always 2 or 3 passes. It takes me pretty much an entire day just to till my small plots up lol. Not to mention that big thing hanging off of the back makes it pretty interesting maneuvering the hills I have to traverse to get to the plots. Had a few close calls over the years.

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My hobby is Ford tractors. Have most of 21K posts on one tractor board and several thousand on a couple of others.
One thing I've learned is in most applications and soils a rear tiller comes in a very poor second to a plow and disc.
Even a little ol Ford N Series with a one or two bottom 3 point plow and disc will outperform a tiller. No, it wont create a fine tilth like a tiller will but for plots a disc produces more than suitable results.
I have a couple of 1960s/70s Fords that produce 38 and 52 pto hp respectively.
They would easily run a 6' maybe even 7' tiller. But in our rocky soil it would destroy a tiller rather quickly. So I've been using a plow and disc for years. (Then broadcast, then a cultipacker) Maybe you could look for a plow and disc for your tractor.
Tillers are kind of a modern phenomenon that folks seem to think are the cat's meow. But for speed of tillage and low cost per acre a good old plow and disc will put a pto driven tiller to shame.

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On 7/5/2017 at 5:20 PM, Ultradog said:

My hobby is Ford tractors. Have most of 21K posts on one tractor board and several thousand on a couple of others.
One thing I've learned is in most applications and soils a rear tiller comes in a very poor second to a plow and disc.
Even a little ol Ford N Series with a one or two bottom 3 point plow and disc will outperform a tiller. No, it wont create a fine tilth like a tiller will but for plots a disc produces more than suitable results.
I have a couple of 1960s/70s Fords that produce 38 and 52 pto hp respectively.
They would easily run a 6' maybe even 7' tiller. But in our rocky soil it would destroy a tiller rather quickly. So I've been using a plow and disc for years. (Then broadcast, then a cultipacker) Maybe you could look for a plow and disc for your tractor.
Tillers are kind of a modern phenomenon that folks seem to think are the cat's meow. But for speed of tillage and low cost per acre a good old plow and disc will put a pto driven tiller to shame.

I have an ooooold worn out  jd wheel disc that was called an 8 footer but think it is a little wider actual width.  I inquired about parts for it years ago from the local jd dealer and the parts were insane.  It needs bearing carriers for the axles and bearings.  It still works and I can grease the fittings, but it is very loose.  Ran across some aftermarket parts on ebay the other day when looking for something else and looks like they may work for it but need to do a little more checking into it.  

Tiller is also for our garden, so it will get used.

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Wm,

Yeah Mother Deere is pretty proud of her parts. To give her credit though Deere has the best parts support for their legacy equipment than any other brand.

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Yea I think at some point I might pick up a small 3 point disc. He bought the PTO tiller for his garden more than anything, but I agree that for food plots a disc would probably be the better option.

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On 7/9/2017 at 7:41 PM, Ultradog said:

Wm,

Yeah Mother Deere is pretty proud of her parts. To give her credit though Deere has the best parts support for their legacy equipment than any other brand.

Yep, they are pretty proud alright.  If the aftermarket parts will work, I will try to repair what I can on that old wheel disc.  It does a good job, plenty heavy.  But for small stuff like the garden it is really too big.  

On 7/10/2017 at 8:57 AM, MUDRUNNER said:

Yea I think at some point I might pick up a small 3 point disc. He bought the PTO tiller for his garden more than anything, but I agree that for food plots a disc would probably be the better option.

I have a 3 pt disc too, not sure who made it, I know my wife's step dad rigged up the frame from angle.  The thing is very "rigged".  It
needs rebuilt, the angle twists too easy, back left gang will bite on the inside and the outside twists up to where it does not even touch the ground. Found a place local to buy steel fairly reasonable, I will lay it out sometime and figure materials and see if it is cost effective and may just rebuild the thing.

Here is a pic of the third plot in the bottom.   A lot of sand down there, surprising that beans do ok.  This pic was right before I sprayed the grasses in the middle.  

The buck I killed last December walked across where this plot is, saw him down there twice but ended up killing him in our back field. There is a ladder stand back behind where I am standing to take this pic, and another one to the left of the fence up the hill a bit.  Catrina killed her buck last fall about 50 yards in front of where I took the pic from.  

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The other 2 plots have taken off pretty well, will try to get some current pics of them soon.

 

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Far corner of soybean plot in the bottom.  Deer seem to like the hoosier pride gly resistant beans just fine.  At $25 per 50 lb bag from rural king, I will be planting these again next year.

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57 minutes ago, Mathews XT Man said:

Wow, they did very well, you say you got them planted late?

These were a 4.7 maturity bean, usually farmers plant them in April-May, I did not get them in until later on in June.  That was all rural king had in the store and was lucky to get them.  Next year will buy a mix, but will order the seed early.  The ground those are on in that deer pic is bottom ground that floods and has a lot of sand wash in.  I did not even fertilize them.  

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