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Shot the Accura V2 for the 1st time today...love the trigger on it but it seems I've got to clean it every 3-4 shots....crud really builds up on the breech plug and even firing pin area. Curious as to how many shots you get through yours before you clean? Had a couple misfires as well...thought maybe it was moisture from washing the breech plug or swabbing the gun inbetween....the 2 triple 7 pellets didn't seem to ignite fully must be, the shot didn't go very far...I got close to the bullseye then 2 misfires I quit until tomorrow and gave the gun a really good cleaning, noticed the breech plug was really caked and some caking around the firing pin so I removed that and cleaned it. What do you do when you clean the firing pin assembly?

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I have shot probably a dozen shots in a single session before Ruth, without breaking the gun down to properly clean it.  I have not had any major issues with crud forming.  I mean you will get some minor residue, but it should wipe off with a dry rag, nothing that merits a need for cleaning.  

When shooting from the bench I will usually only run a spit patch and a dry patch then reload.  More often than not reloading does not become any more difficult with following shots.  I have in the past used #13 bore cleaner patch and a dry patch between shots, but that is really not needed.  

I do not wash the breech plug at all during shooting sessions, but if you were using a cleaning solution or pre soaked patches, some moisture may have gotten into the breech plug.  ANY time I am loading a first round after cleaning or taking the gun out of the safe to load it I pop a primer BEFORE loading that first round to dry the plug, and then run a dry patch down and back up and out.  If after 3-4 shots you feel the need to run a bore cleaning saturated patch down the barrel, just pop a primer to clear any moisture before loading it again.  When I break the gun down, I always use a small nipple brush inside the breech plug.

Far as the pellets, I have heard complaints about them not fully igniting, but I cannot say as I do not use pellets.  I use loose powder in my setups and have NEVER had an issue with powder not igniting.  Could be some of the crud issue you are seeing is a result of the pellets, not sure.  

To remove the firing pin you unscrew the screw where the pin face is.  There is a spring inside and the pin itself.  I use brushes to clean as best as I can and clean the pin with a rag and some clp or a lightly oiled rag would also work fine. 

Only misfires I had was really my own fault, that was with the sticky firing pin.  Have had no other issues with misfires.  What primers are you using?

 

 

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I'm using Winchester 209 primers....was just reading online some recommended the CCI primers, specifically with the blackhorn powder. I may have to try the powder next year. I was running a rust protectant patch down the barrel but maybe I should just do a dry patch after cleaning it if I'm going to be shooting....

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What bullet/sabot are you using wtn? I'm using hornady sst. I see CVA recommends Powerbelts? Do you still need the plastic sleeve on those do you know or not? I see they have a plastic base on them

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The winchester 209 primers are what I am using.  You should not have issues with them with ignition.  Think your issue is probably more likely due to moisture from the cleaning you had done between shots, likely you got just enough moisture in the breech area to prevent the primer from doing its job, may also be impacting your powder burn efficiency if there is any dampness in the breech area.  Again, I would not use any cleaning solution between shots unless you are having issues with loading or you notice your accuracy is worsening.  A spit patch then dry patch should suffice.  

I am currently using hornady 240 grain "American Whitetail"  interlocks, they use a shorter sabot that falls away pretty quick.  I had been using the tc xtp mags, which were a hornady xtp mag bullet.  Powerbelts do not utilize a plastic sabot.  The sst's are a good bullet Ruth, you should get good accuracy and performance out of them.  

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Thanks for the help wtn...yeah I'll try just clean and dry swab and avoid the oil protectant stuff...maybe that is contributing to the excess build-up. I have some of the hollow point hornady as well I wanted to put through it and see how they flew.

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To kinda follow up here, you cannot really assume a load that works for one bergara barrel is gonna be the best for the next.  I got my wife's accura mountain rifle clover leafing the 240 grain interlocks at 100 yards, BUT not with the same load that produced the best accuracy out of my longer barreled standard accura v2.  I shoot 115 grains loose triple 7. 

I used my load as a starting point for hers.  Hers with 115 grains of triple 7 was just not producing the accuracy i thought it should.  Groups were greater than 1.5 inches off the bench.  Also to note it produced significantly more recoil than my gun with the exact same load.  Wife shot 3 shots her first session and was done.  So backed down at 5 grain increments and found 100 grains triple 7 to be a real sweet spot for her gun.

Also to note there is a poi shift from 240 grain hornady xtp mags to the 240 hornady American whitetail that was approximately 2 inches to the right for both accura rifles at 100 yards.  Elevation remained the same.

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