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Will there be an approved vaccine before the end of 2020?

So, say a covid vaccine is approved and available this fall or winter.  Do you take it or no? 

If you have serious health concerns that put you at increased risk for complications do you lean more towards taking it?

Think I will be taking a pneumonia vaccination for the first time ever in my life but seriously doubt even if my cardiologist strongly suggests it that I would trust a covid vaccine that has been rushed through.  Given the past history of the efficacy of flu vaccines, and the known that this coronavirus has been able to mutate makes me skeptical of how effective a vaccine may even be.    

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I too have taken my first pneumonia shot, 2nd one due next yr. 

Corona vaccine shot, I guess I'd be more afraid of WHAT else is in it that we dont know.  

At this point, NO

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Hard no for me. I've never got a flu shot, think the last time I had the stomach flu was when I was out at your place, Martin. That was what, 12-13 years ago? 

Think I'll stick to my normal routine besides washing my hands after going to the stores etc.

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When I had my kids in for the flu they said they were just starting to see people who had gotten the flu shot coming in with the flu.  So the flu shot they have been using for years still isn't completely effective. 

Last time I had a flu shot was in 05, I got pretty bad off that fall/winter and ended up with a bad case of bronchitis.  

Will definitely be interesting to see how things work out.  To see if the guinea pigs they are giving trials to now develop an immune response and what kind of side effects they have.  Sure sounding like there could be 100 million doses ready this fall for the most vulnerable Americans.  

 

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It may be an employment mandate like the flu vaccine is for me. If I want to work I am required to take the flu vaccine. I would not be surprised to see the same with COVID.

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7 hours ago, fly said:

It may be an employment mandate like the flu vaccine is for me. If I want to work I am required to take the flu vaccine. I would not be surprised to see the same with COVID.

Good point.  I know the speculation of 100 million doses was said to be for elderly and most vulnerable.  Think healthcare workers were also mentioned. Be interesting to see for sure.

Heard earlier this week that dexamethasone is showing promise as a treatment.  With the numbers of infected continuing to tick back upwards in much of the country, hopefully the death toll can be limited with more knowledge of what is working.  

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Injecting a foreign substance into the body without at least a documented 90+% success rate makes little sense to me.  I seriously doubt there will be a vaccine available this year and if there was, said vaccine would not have had sufficient time for adequate testing.

Yes, many workers will be required to get the vaccine when/if it becomes available.  Will it help?  Maybe.  Will it be 100% effective?  No.

Dexamethasone is a potent steroid that limits inflammatory response which gives patients a change to fight off and recover from the virus.  I do not think it directly has any effect on the virus.  If your immune system is totally shot it probably won't do much more than prolong the inevitable.

 

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27 minutes ago, elkoholic said:

Dexamethasone is a potent steroid that limits inflammatory response which gives patients a change to fight off and recover from the virus

Right, it helps control the inflammation.  Pneumonia had been being one of the primary issues and lung inflammation leading to breathing complications.  Think last I heard they were saying remdesivir in combination with dex was showing promise as a therapeutic.

Problem is a lot of people with underlying issues could not use that regimen.  Last fall my regular Dr, who was will aware of my cardio issues put me on Prednisone.  Almost put me in the hospital, sent my bp into dangerous levels.  

I still plan on getting pneumonia vaccine, no way I am doing a covid vaccine if it becomes available.

btw, good to see you back around Dave.

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