Covid 19 vaccine


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First of all, this is NOT a vaccine. it's an "experimental drug". I'm not getting experimented on, and find out the side effects after the fact.

Y'all want to fall in line and do what the Government tells you, well be my guest. I'm not.

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On 3/29/2021 at 6:16 PM, Ravin R10 man said:

Y'all want to fall in line and do what the Government tells you, well be my guest. I'm not.

I was a hard NO on taking the vaccine.  MY decision had absolutely nothing to do with anything the government said.  I was strongly encouraged to get vaccinated by primary care dr, wife and my cardiologist.  After much of my own research and seeing how Catrina got sick and had some issues with her blood pressure with the second dose of moderna I was still on the fence, I said I would only get the johnson and johnson vaccine.  I was eligible to get the vaccine beginning of this month.  Found where the johnson and johnson vaccine was available, called and made an appointment and got it.  Had flulike symptoms for about a day or so and sore shoulder for nearly a week.  The johnson and johnson vaccine is similar to the flu shot, it does NOT use mrna.  I know I can still get covid, but chances of serious illness or death from covid with the vaccine is near zero.  A requirement for vanderbilt before admission for my upcoming repairs is to be tested again, or be vaccinated.  

President Trump has on more than one occasion called on all Americans to get vaccinated.  

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I got my second Moderna several weeks ago.  The nurse warned me that that any side effects would come 12 hours later and it sure did.  Woke up exactly 12 hours later with a fever.  I kept it at bay with tylenol and motrin.  15 hours later it disappeared.  I was a little dizzy the next morning but by afternoon I was right as rain and have been since.

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The thought that having to have proof (a "vaccine card") of being vaccinated to gain entrance to various facilities or events is a little concerning.  For those opposed to the vaccine that would create a conundrum.  You may need a vaccine card to get in the grocery store.  There are still to many unanswered questions about the various vaccines, and the ability of the virus to mutate.  The reason there was a drop in reported covid cases was social distancing or simply keeping people separated.  That simple fact is what brought about the tremendous drop in influenza cases this year.  It had nothing to do with any vaccines.  As life returns to normal (what ever that is), there is once again an upswing in reported cases.  In a mobile society there is no way to halt the transmission of various diseases.   It remains to be seen if the morbidity and mortality is reduced by the vaccines, or, if there is little or no change as has been observed by the influenza vaccines pushed by the CDC every year.

I may be considered as having a cold heart in saying this, but having less than 1% of our world population die has little effect on human's over population of earth.  As we strive to keep everyone alive for as long as possible, fighting to stave off anything that could cause death, we are doing more damage to the planet than it can recover from.  We may win the battle but we will lose the war.

If you do get the vaccine, a few things to remember are, you can still be a carrier, you can still get symptoms which may (or may not) be less severe.  Everyone may not be able to build a sufficient immune response and therefore you could still transfer the virus to them even if they had received the vaccine.  The elderly and transplant patients (anyone on immunosuppressant therapy) are still susceptible.

 

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On 4/4/2021 at 3:11 PM, elkoholic said:

If you do get the vaccine, a few things to remember are, you can still be a carrier, you can still get symptoms which may (or may not) be less severe.  Everyone may not be able to build a sufficient immune response and therefore you could still transfer the virus to them even if they had received the vaccine.  The elderly and transplant patients (anyone on immunosuppressant therapy) are still susceptible.

Yes sir, very aware.  I am still doing my stay away from people.  I figured the j and j was my best option.  Strongly suggested that I be vaccinated before my surgery in May.  Biggest factor for me in deciding to get it was on the likelihood it would lessen potential damage caused by covid.  

Primary care doc, cardiologist, wife, and a cardiology pa all strongly encouraged me getting a vaccine. They are far more educated on this stuff than I am.   

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